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《今日说法》:野马杀手阔日杜布

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Название: Верность Отчизне. Ищущий боя.
Автор: И.Н. Кожедуб
Издательство: — М.: Яуза
Год: 2006
ISBN: 5-699-14931-7
Страниц: 576
Качество: хорошее
Язык: русский





这本2006年的出版物称现场时间为1945年4月17日,立此存照


IP属地:英国1楼2020-08-25 02:31回复
    也不把那个zeiss遮一遮


    IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端2楼2020-08-25 03:59
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      到底是咋回事
      有定论了没


      IP属地:江苏3楼2020-08-25 11:33
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        And finally, another little-known fact, which Ivan Nikitovich had to keep silent about in his memoirs. At the very end of the war, Kozhedub replenished his combat account with two American P-51 Mustang fighters, which mistakenly tried to attack him over Berlin, but were immediately shot down while repelling the attack. As Ivan Nikitovich himself told me, on April 17, 1945, when he met the Flying Fortresses in the air, he drove away a couple of Messerschmitts from them with a barrage, but a second later he was attacked by American cover fighters. “Fire for whom? To me?! - Kozhedub recalled with indignation half a century later. - The line was long, with a balish, in a kilometer, distance, with bright, unlike ours and German


        IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端5楼2020-08-26 00:14
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          kih, tracer shells. Due to the great distance, it was seen how the end of the line bends down. I moved over and, quickly getting closer, attacked the extreme American (by the number of fighters in the escort, I already knew who it was) - something exploded in his fuselage, he got very worn out and went down towards our troops. With a half-loop, having completed a combat turn, from an inverted position, I attacked the next one. My shells went very well, the plane exploded in the air ... When the tension of the battle subsided, my mood was not at all victorious - I had already managed to make out the white stars on the wings and fuselages. “They will arrange for me ... for the first number,” I thought as I put the car down. But nothing happened. In the cockpit of the Mustang, which had landed on our territory, there was a huge negro. To the question of the guys who came to him in time, who knocked him down (or rather, when they managed to translate this question), he answered: "Focke-Wulf" with a red nose ... I don't think he was playing along; did not even then learn to look at both ... When the FKP films were developed ", the main moments of the battle were recorded on them very clearly? submission to which we then entered, after watching said: “These victories are at the expense of a future war.” And Pavel Fedorovich Chutikov, our squadron, soon gave me these tapes with the words: “Take them for yourself, Ivan, and do not show anyone” ...


          IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端6楼2020-08-26 00:15
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            也许有的同学刚刚打开电梯,在这里把话说清楚
            1.阔日杜布的自传中没有“击落野马”之类的叙述
            2.所谓"阔日杜布击落野马"的宣称无法得到现存美军资料的核实
            欢迎干货打脸


            IP属地:英国来自Android客户端9楼2020-08-26 22:35
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              那个击落262的战绩好像也是别人添油加醋的结果,他自己报告击落一架奇怪的109,可能有喷气发动机(实际上也许是受损的副油箱),结果被莫名其妙的宣传成了262。


              IP属地:美国10楼2020-08-27 00:20
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                看吧里的旧帖,似乎东线可确认的零星的击落262记录都是yak-9U干的?


                IP属地:美国11楼2020-08-27 00:22
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                  1.阔日杜布在自传和战后访谈中多次宣称击落ME 262,没有“一架奇怪的109,可能有喷气发动机”之类的叙述
                  2.现阶段公开的德国空军档案没有与之相对应的损失记录
                  同样欢迎干货打脸


                  IP属地:英国来自Android客户端13楼2020-08-27 09:08
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                    也许我说的不够清楚有同学误解了,在这里强调一下:
                    1 - 顶楼这本书就是阔日杜布的自传《对祖国忠诚》,正文中没有击落野马的描述
                    2 - 在2006年(阔日杜布去世15年后)再版时,编者Никола́й Гео́ргиевич Бодри́хин,一个1954年(!)出生的作家,在前言中声称:阔日杜布亲口对他说在1945年4月17日击落野马的故事BLABLA
                    大家自己分析


                    IP属地:英国15楼2022-06-26 19:09
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