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The raven was the sacred bird

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The raven was the sacred bird of another supreme deity as well - Odin/Wodan from the Nordic mythology, who, according to the Young Edda itself, came to Scandinavia from Asia Minor.
As for Inanna, for me she is the only real rival of Enlil - having charmed Enki and taken the MEs from Abzu, having taken Eanna from her grand-grandfather An, and having deprived him of his magical power by making him send his magical image Gudgalanna against Gilgamesh, then with all her arrogance having visited his widow Ereshkigal and having returned from the Land of No-Return...
Though there is no text telling about her rivalry with Enlil, it's implied anyway. Moreover, in the later Hurro-Hittite mythos we see her under her name Ishtar together with her brother the Storm-god to rule the universe while Ellil is exiled under the dark earth. This silent dethronement of Enlil/Ellil in the post-Sumerian mythologies has always been a mystery to me.
這篇文章是怎麼回事,恩利勒被伊南娜放逐?古伽勒安納和吉爾伽美什同級?


IP属地:广东来自Android客户端1楼2020-08-24 23:51回复
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    IP属地:山东来自Android客户端2楼2020-09-21 14:22
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      楼主的疑问,来源自enenuru论坛,一位论坛用户的回复。
      那位用户,可能节选自哪篇文章或某作品内容,但没引源,所以也可能是他个人看法
      楼主用的那段话,是该用户回复上一位用户的话题。话题内容如下:
      The theory in which the Enmesharra myth is presented as result of ideological efforts of the Babylonian theologists, seems most probable. Transformation of Anu and Enlil into antagonists killed by Marduk as we see in the quoted texts of the first millenia became logical development of this line.
      Regarding to the Namzidtara tale: V. Afanasieva in her comments to Russian translation explores cec ad-da-zu as "literally: the brother of your father, but a general meaning: the ancestor". She also mentions that with Enlil connected not only a raven (uga), but also girgirlu (a crow-like bird).
      In very obscure and enigmatic text about shumunda grass (ETCSL, 1.7.7, lines 32, 34) Inanna also connected with raven and caused the flood like Enlil (as she did in Enmerkar and Lord of Aratta story) - this similarity between Enlil and Inanna seems very interesting for me.
      回复就是楼主粘贴的内容。
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      他们在对“Enmesharra”进行讨论,并且将讨论内容进一步扩展。
      https://enenuru.proboards.com/thread/99/enmesharra
      综合来看,楼主想知晓更进一步,最好询问enenuru论坛的该用户。


      IP属地:广西本楼含有高级字体3楼2020-09-22 23:39
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        As for Inanna, for me she is the only real rival of Enlil - having charmed Enki and taken the MEs from Abzu, having taken Eanna from her grand-grandfather An, and having deprived him of his magical power by making him send his magical image Gudgalanna against Gilgamesh, then with all her arrogance having visited his widow Ereshkigal and having returned from the Land of No-Return...
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        “古伽勒安納和吉爾伽美什同級?”
        这里,国外论坛用户说的是,“就他个人而言的看法”:伊南娜才是所谓恩里勒真正的对手。
        可以看到浓厚的个人解释风格。
        从恩基处获取ME-《伊南娜与恩基》
        纂夺Eanna(乌鲁克一处神庙名)——牛津某篇,不记得哪篇了
        Gud-gal-an-na,见于《伊南娜下冥界》。《吉尔伽美什与天堂公牛》的“gud-an-na”并没有同名,现在也没其他文本能提供关联证明两者是同一只。虽然很多人会“倾向性”认为是“同一只”。
        神祇用“公牛”的相关形容来当作外号,稀松平常。恩里勒、南纳以及等等都有。
        该用户似乎理解成《吉尔伽美什与天堂公牛》故事中,吉尔伽美什杀牛,意指:伊南娜是在阴谋的剥削安神力量。(将安神的分身-天牛,送给吉尔伽美什)
        一系列故事内容理解成“伊南娜的阴谋行为“。
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        “恩利勒被伊南娜放逐?”
        将赫梯某神话解读为对恩里勒放逐。
        ”这种后苏美神话时,对恩里勒的废黜“——对他来说,是个谜。
        新亚述时期,阿淑尔神经常使用恩里勒别名,别称,伊什塔尔是其妻子。这里是否要接脑洞逻辑,编下去?恩里勒翻身了?


        IP属地:广西本楼含有高级字体4楼2020-09-23 00:13
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          恩利勒会被伊南娜放逐。。。挺懵的


          IP属地:安徽来自Android客户端5楼2020-09-23 10:32
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